unitas: (▸chorus of evil)
Sнαroɴ Dα Sιlvα | əıdsəๅๅı⅁ ɐssəๅ∀ ([personal profile] unitas) wrote in [community profile] hadriel2016-06-15 02:33 pm

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[ The room behind her is ensconced in darkness, and only her face and neck are visible, lit only by the cold light of her phone. She's clearly apprehensive, and uncertain, filled with new doubts, and worries.   This is not a post she had ever thought she would have to make, but now, with Hope announcing the safety of the temples (safety that comes with a price, she believes), she has no real choice.  She swallows, suddenly all nerves. ]

I know it's tempting, but... [  Is there any way to say this where people will listen? ] don't use the temples, don't hide in them.  If you have to hide, then pick a building, find a room, and hunker down.  When the Darkness comes, you might have to move, but... [ She licks her lips, expression pained for a moment before she shakes her head, as if giving up on something.  ]

This is for the best.

[ ...Maybe. ]
torrefied: (and nine in my head and)

voice here too.

[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-16 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
[GUESS WHO ELSE IS EAVESDROPPING. This asshole.]

Seems like a bullet in her head might be a good place to start with looking for a way to stop it. You'd be surprised how well that works and with how many things.

[Why yes, he's replying in the post even though he's in the other room of the house.]
thechoiceisyours: (★ ʟɪᴋᴇ ғɪʀᴇs ᴡᴇ ᴄᴀɴ'ᴛ ᴄᴏɴᴛᴀɪɴ)

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[personal profile] thechoiceisyours 2016-06-16 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
[Everyone's an evesdropper on this post let's be real. Including this guy.]

Dude.

Not cool.

[Even as a joke it wouldn't be cool and he isn't sure it's a joke.]
torrefied: (there's five for the silver)

permavoice

[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-16 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
[He is absolutely not joking.]

Chris, I don't know if you've actually looked at what's going on out there, but this is not a situation where asking nicely is going to accomplish anything.
thechoiceisyours: (★ ᴀ sɪɴᴋɪɴɢ sʜɪᴘ)

[personal profile] thechoiceisyours 2016-06-16 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
[Great. Good to know his intuition is still working.]

Okay, pretending like there isn't some huge moral issue of suggesting killing someone as like, your first thought, it's still totally pointless. In case you forgot, that's not exactly a permanent solution to anything.

Also it's fucking reprehensible.

[He's so not joking either; as pissed as he is--what the hell is Sharon thinking? Especially after the argument he'd had with her during the wendigo thing--suggesting shooting her is just sick. Self defense is one thing and this is totally another, not to mention that she can hear this conversation.]
torrefied: (destroy this city of delusion)

[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-16 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
One, it wasn't my first thought. I tried having a reasonable and completely civil conversation with her.

[Scroll down, Chris.]

And two? This is exactly the sort of thing I was talking about last time. Yes, there are some instances where killing another person is a reprehensible act, but this isn't one of them. She's endangered the lives everyone else living here, and she's done so willfully. One death - which, as you've so helpfully pointed out, isn't permanent - is an acceptable cost if it saves dozens of lives as a result.
thechoiceisyours: (❄ ʀᴜɴɴɪɴɢ sᴄᴀʀᴇᴅ)

[personal profile] thechoiceisyours 2016-06-16 04:44 am (UTC)(link)
Sure. It just came to mind later and you only needed to think about it for like, ten seconds before deciding to go with it.

[He's being clearly sarcastic, but if that is indeed the truth it'd be, somehow, even worse.]

Yeah? You're making some really serious assumptions here and we can go back and forth on your shitty logic all you want, but on the rest of it you're wrong. Like, flat out, inarguably wrong.

[It's harsh but unhesitating; this whole conversation is hitting far too close to home and he's out of patience to deal with any of it, but he can't just walk away either.]
torrefied: (this ain't no singing in the rain)

[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-16 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
I can't really be faulted if my mind works quickly, or if I'm used to making these kinds of decisions.

[He did kinda hint at that earlier, so.]

I assume nothing, Chris, and if you're going to insist on telling me I'm wrong, you better have evidence to back up your claim.

[SHOW! YOUR! WORK!!]

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[personal profile] solvethepuzzle 2016-06-16 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
[Sigh.]

That assumes the effect would cease with her death, or that she wouldn't revive and the effect reinstates itself automatically or she decides to do it again.

[Why are they doing this where other people can hear them when they're in the same house?]
torrefied: (and a good disguise)

[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-16 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
[Because Reasons.]

Hope's the one who has to bring her back if she's killed, and he's not exactly happy with her at the moment, either.

[Scroll down, Near.]

I don't think it would take too much convincing to get him to take his time with it, at least long enough to figure out if that solution is effective.
solvethepuzzle: (Skeptic)

[personal profile] solvethepuzzle 2016-06-16 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
[He already has. Have you even met him?]

Or you could stop and consider things beyond the first impulsive thought that enters your mind.

[Yes, he knows this will go over badly.]
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torrefied: (and three for the time)

[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-16 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
[For fuck's sake, Near, you at least know him, not like everyone else here.]

It wasn't my first thought, you twerp! I tried talking to her like a reasonable human being, and you can clearly see how well that didn't work. There is a very simple risk-benefit analysis to be made, and I made it. And, by the way, I don't see you offering any alternatives. If you're going to criticize my methods, at least have a suitable suggestion of your own to present.
solvethepuzzle: (Consider)

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[personal profile] solvethepuzzle 2016-06-16 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Mello, please calm down.

[Switching to this private like both of them frankly should have the first time. But thank you for the chance to show himself the reasonable one, Mello.]

You had civil conversation for how long before you turned to this? You've lost any potential to learn more this way.
torrefied: (and damn you all to hell)

private, yay

[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-16 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
What did I tell you about giving me orders? I'm pretty sure it was something along the lines of don't.

[You'll hear him suck in a sharp breath through his teeth.]

Long enough. What else do you expect to learn, exactly? She's said she doesn't know how to stop it, and she's made it clear she doesn't have any intention of doing so, either.

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[voice]

[personal profile] verinumeri 2016-06-16 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
[ Against his better judgment, but honestly. ]

You must know that everyone can hear you. I don't care: everyone can hear you.

Unless you're looking to give the city guard a reason to start a prison?

[ Not that he's suggesting this idiot plot murder more discreetly, even if the girl idiot's going to get him killed with this nonsense. He just can't listen to that and keep his mouth shut. ]
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torrefied: (this ain't no singing in the rain)

[permavoice]

[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-16 04:45 am (UTC)(link)
Hang the city guard. If they had any real influence, they would've been addressing this issue from the start.

[So - no, he doesn't care that everyone else can hear him. Sorry he's not more sorry.]
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[personal profile] verinumeri 2016-06-16 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, because the only way to have real influence is to, what, shoot the girl? Might as well, just because she'll come back eventually?

Irrelevant. I don't know how they're handling this. I'm only suggesting that you might consider that there might be people who wouldn't take kindly to it, and might try to stop you.

[ Pause. ]

Conversely, there are likely people who would approve and set off to hunt her down. Meanwhile, let's agitate the girl who can do this by discussing murdering her publicly. Right. This couldn't possibly get even messier.

torrefied: (this avalanche will suffocate you)

[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-16 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
The way the city guard has influence is by guarding the city. It's right there in the name.

[You had ONE JOB, etc. etc.]

I'm not especially concerned with what people take kindly to, or what people might do, particularly when there's something that definitely is happening, like there is now. And in case you're new to this entire conversation, which I'm guessing you are, the girl is doing this on purpose. She had to know that her actions would have consequences. Even she isn't that stupid.
synthedick: (♦ the heretic)

[voice]

[personal profile] synthedick 2016-06-16 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
[This discussion just brought out all the folks who quietly observe the network, didn't it?]

Her actions have consequences, as will yours if anything comes of what you're suggesting. Knock it off.
torrefied: (and a good disguise)

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[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-16 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
You people are unbelievable.

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[personal profile] verinumeri 2016-06-16 12:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, Mr. Valentine!

[ Entirely situationally inappropriate perk in his voice. ]

He won't listen, of course. I suspect we are wasting our br--words.

[ Speaking of publicly talking about people... as if that guy would care. ]

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[personal profile] verinumeri 2016-06-16 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
If the so-called gods -- so-permissibly-called as they demonstrably have more control over the area -- have been unable to fix it, you think it makes sense to dismiss the guard entirely for likewise failing? There is no guarantee killing her won't make it worse.

No, that's clear enough. You guess incorrectly. I've heard that, yes. She's irresponsible and ought to have consulted before unleashing a dangerous, glorified experiment on the lot of us. I am not suggesting there should not be consequences.

[ As a Big Fan of order and whatnot, he'd probably be just as happy if the city guard did start a prison and locked her up a bit. Probably not a great idea to start turning against each other in any fashion, but. Nice idea. ]

I am saying your approach is ridiculously ill-thought out.
torrefied: (is an art that's hard to teach)

[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-18 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
And I'm saying you have no way of comprehending my thought processes, so you're better off not speculating on them.

[He gave this idea plenty of thought, OK.]

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[personal profile] torrefied 2016-06-16 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
You think I won't?

[There's no trace of his usual arrogant bravado in what he says; it's all grim determination. Mello doesn't delight in the idea of killing someone, even if it's only temporary. But he's done it before, when it was necessary, and he'll do it again, if circumstances call for it.]

I'm not bluffing.