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Trafalgar Law ([personal profile] hot_mes) wrote in [community profile] hadriel2018-07-06 03:38 pm

[video] a pirate's life for me

[much as he really should wait and learn more information generally, Law feels like he has enough to go on to make this...declaration. And question. Mostly question but there's some solid plans up in there too.]

Is there anyone present with the capability of building pressurized underwater vessel technology and passable engines from the parts we have at the lab? If not that, what about breathing apparatus for underwater exploration?

Without a submarine, at the very least we'll need a vessel capable of holding up to lengthy journeys and containing supplies for the trip. Curufin, Floki, it's time we got working.

[those who know him well might note the lack of his casual -ya on those names]

I'm sure our hosts will be on this soon enough, but I'm not waiting for them. I'm also not planning on taking the entire city on a pleasure cruise. When I form a crew it will be of the most capable and functionally useful sailors, fighters, and explorers only. And the position of captain is already taken. [S M U G] As is ship's doctor. I could use a navigator so long as their experience isn't solely a set of stars that don't exist here.
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2018-07-07 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
It might be possible to build a submarine vessel, but it will take a LOT more time to construct than a surface ship will. And we'd have to recruit a lot more tech people. I can certainly handle some types of modern tech -- did it in the world I lived in before Hadriel -- but we'd need some specialists.

Personally, I'd go for building the brig sloop you were talking about and try to add some diving equipment. Though where we'd get that, I don't know, unless you want to settle for me and whatever techies we could recruit designing and fabricating some. Again, problem of time.

So, you're the captain, you decide. [ Grin. ]

Oh, btw, I know navigation. I'll just have to make a star map for this planet.
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2018-07-07 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I am skilled at making plate metal, as I'm sure my kin told you. And it's not that much of a leap of technology to make sheet metal by rolling or casting. But again, time and materials. I still have a heap of Null bodies in my workshop, which I've been melting down or forging for hardware. But that pile is diminishing. There isn't enough metal left for the hard shell that would be needed for the submarine. We'd be stuck with asking the gods for materials, and we're already agreed on the undesirability of that.

But yes, that is what I would do -- explore all the potential ideas before making a decision.
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2018-07-09 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
All right, we'll take a look at them!
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2018-07-11 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm on West Island now. I'll be there in half an hour.
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2018-07-12 07:49 am (UTC)(link)
[ Curufin arrives right on the dot. He comes to Law's desk. ]

Okay, let's see those sketches, if you've got a moment!
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2018-07-13 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
[ Curufn takes the papers and studies them closely. The sketches are considerably better than a child's drawing, and Curufin nods. ]

I would really like to build that submarine, and it is a pity about the time and materials problem. I think it's a good thing you're thinking in terms of a wooden ship as a real alternative. What I'm seeing here is definitely a thing that Floki and I could build.

If you absolutely need a cabin, it shouldn't be hard to add one to these designs. The only real issue is whether the cabin takes up space the sailors will need to move around in while tending to the ropes and canvas. So if you want one, the placement is very important, and so is the length and width of the ship.

We may possibly need some covered space, even if it's not for the crew. We don't really know what these pieces of Door are going to be. Are they devices, or are they fragments of living beings or energy beings of some sort? Name seemed to be implying the last. Does such a being, or pieces of such a being, require shelter?

We could use the hold, of course, and just not worry about a cabin. Belowdecks isn't necessarily the most comfortable place. But then, the supplies will be stashed there, and so will any equipment that's not being used. At least, that's my assumption about this type of ship. That's how the ships of Nevrast were organized in the world I lived in before Hadriel, the ones I was repairing and learning to sail.

[ Checking his phone archives. ] The good news is, Glacius has volunteered. If you are willing to allow him to accompany the mission, you won't need a submarine.
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2018-07-14 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Is there any time Law doesn't look dour? XD ]

[ Picks up the drawings, takes a second look, grins. ] Nope, no low forecastles for you, my lad!

All right, we will build to your specifications. Probably best to keep it to twenty meters bow to stern.

Did the Null say anything about how large these Door fragments would be, or how much they might weigh?
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2018-07-14 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
If that conversation is still going on, maybe someone will ask. But the little guy seems to flit on and off the network before any discussion in depth seems to happen. Oh well, I guess we'll just have to assume that we're not talking about anything the size of a whale, and hope that's the case!

[ It would surprise Curufin greatly if anybody in the Clinic is in the Kill the Null camp! But you never know who might be visiting, so Curufin also refrains from this topic. ]

All right, then the next step is to get a set of exact plans drafted. Drawings with all features, and to scale. I can do that today, and I'll get back to you for your approval on the design details.

So, Captain Law? When will you be making your decision as to who will be in the crew? I'm volunteering my sailing and navigation skills. I'll build the ship in any case, in collaboration with Floki. But after that, I won't sit here on the islands and twiddle my thumbs. I'll be getting my own expedition organized if I'm not going on yours.
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[personal profile] so_dark_a_road 2018-07-15 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
[ He nods. ] I'll do it, and I'll message you soon.

You're forgetting I have my own boat. It's the same kind of boat that I and my family used to cross the Arctic ocean in our world, so if there isn't time to build another, there's my backup.

I understand that picking a crew is not an easy task. Just let me know as soon as you can. Meantime. . . . [ And his eyes light up at the thought of hewing timber and wielding saw, adze, and all his lovely cutting tools, to build this newer type of ship ] . . . the next step after the plans are made will be to pick a construction site and draw up the materials list. But we won't start construction until you give the word.