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[dreamsallotted]

[Seel is standing in what remains of Sorrow's grove. Like others, he's not exactly thrilled with the heat, but he's not unused to it either, having spent years in an inhospitable climate not unlike this one.]

A couple of things. First. I've been working with Elrond on trying to create some sort of irrigation system for the grove here. We obviously can't continue to rely on the gods for assistance. We need to make ourselves as self reliant as possible.

[Personally, Seel would prefer not to rely on anyone.]

Sorrow's death means we have to keep this grove alive. It's an additional source of food we can't afford to lose. To that end, if anyone needs a project, I would appreciate the help. This may not be the most hospitable land but it does offer food and we can make do with it if we use our resources well enough.

[Seel fingered the package of cigarettes he was holding in one hand, he was running low, and had been rationing best he could with the Null situation, and now this.]

Second. I'm running out of cigarettes. I quit once before but with significantly more resources than what we currently have available. If anyone has any tips, I'd love to hear them.

[At the moment, quitting cold turkey was pretty much his only option. It wasn't like nicotine patches grew on trees here.]

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[lifetothefullest]

If you still have any cigarettes left, even just a few, start spacing them out. It'll not going be a huge help, but it'll still be better than an abrupt stop.

[That's pretty much the only advice he can really offer on that, and he's pretty useless as far as the irrigation idea goes.]

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[dreamsallotted]

I've started doing that already.I'm not looking forward to what happens when I run out.

But thank you.

I'm still interested in talking to you, if you have the time? Although I understand if you have more pressing arrangements.

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[lifetothefullest]

You're welcome. Distracting yourself will probably be the best option for dealing with withdrawal, although you probably know that.

[Quitting any sort of addiction is difficult enough without being somewhere like Hadriel, so he's sympathetic even if he can't really offer any more help.

As for the counseling thing, he feels conflicted and it takes a short time to reply. He definitely doesn't want to tell Seel no, considering how long it's been and the seriousness of the issue, but he also feels terrible and doubtlessly won't be a particularly effective therapist at the moment. So it's a matter of trying to figure out how the pros and cons balance out, and he eventually decides he doesn't want to discourage Seel from talking by telling him this isn't a good time. He can probably just explain away any questions of how haggard he looks by blaming it on the heat and the food shortage.]

Sure, of course. When would you like to meet?

[mightypen]

I can move water in to the system really easily once it's set up. There's a fair amount of it underground and making a well is easy enough.

[dreamsallotted]

That's a handy ability to have. Do you think you can pinpoint where the water is underground?

[voice]

[hot_mes]

I may be able to mitigate the withdrawal symptoms. I have considerable experience removing poisons from the body, addictive substances are similar in principle.

[it's not a perfect solution, since poisons are something the body doesn'tM/i> want and addictions are the opposite, but Law wouldn't mind experimenting with a treatment regimen...]

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[dreamsallotted]

That would be...appreciated. Where should I go to meet you?

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[has_been_faking]

[There's some fumbling from the guy on screen as he reaches offscreen to grab a small notebook. He opens it to a set of pages where he's drawn some diagrams of the orchard and the river, and there are some measurements and other notes as well. They're not very legible.]

Hey, I was thinking the same thing! I was working on it already, actually. Irrigation, I mean. I'm no expert, but I have some ideas and measured some things out. Um, in paces, that is. We don't have anything else to really measure with at the moment. At least I don't.

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[dreamsallotted]

Great. Someone who knows what they're doing. I wasn't looking forward to having to train someone with no experience.

[Seel takes a look at the diagrams, as well as he can see them from the through the screen. They're... a little messy for Seel's tastes.]

Measure with anything, as long as it's consistent. We can grab a long piece of metal if we have too.

If you want to bring the notebook we can meet start planning things out.

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[pellameno]

[ This is perfect timing, actually, Pell was about to make a post offering food and asking for help with irrigation himself. ]

Do you have enough supplies to irrigate my garden as well? It seems to have made the move intact, and is still producing. I can spare seeds to start another plot at Sorrow's grove.

And you can have what's left of my cigarettes to help wean off, if you want.

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[dreamsallotted]

I should. We need the food from your garden. If there ends up being a problem I'm sure we can come up with a solution. There are plenty of people here who seem to be able to move water.

And thank's Pell. But don't you need them?

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[stonebird]

I am happy to help you. Lord Elrond is my tutor and while I am not learning, I can assist you with the plants.

(She likes gardening. It can be dirty and she likes to be clean, but the flowers and fruits are so lovely that it is worthwhile.)

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[dreamsallotted]

I'd appreciate the help, as would I'm sure most of the people here. Plants are not quite in my skill set.

What, my I ask, if he teaching you?

[bythewaves]

Watch Elrond and make sure he does not over-exert himself? If he seems unusually tired, please call me. As to the second, I fear I don't know how to help much, but if physical activity will help, I wouldn't mind some help hunting, either.

[dreamsallotted]

I will do my best.

[Although truth be told Maglor, Seel is the last person you want watching someone to make sure they don't over-exert themselves. He's worked himself so hard he's almost passed out on more than one occasion.]

Physical activity might help yes. What kind of hunting?

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[hasitsthorns]

I'm pretty much always in the orchard anyway, so.
You got my help if you see me around.

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[dreamsallotted]

That's appreciated.

What are you doing spending all this time in the orchard anyway?

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[knifecollecting]

It's too far to just dig a channel, right? [Or maybe not.

She's been trying to stay inside more than she likes. She's been in the cave for over a year and this desert is hard to adjust to.]

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[dreamsallotted]

We could, but I'd rather have something a little more high tech than a channel. It's a good start though. Irrigation lines are safer though. We don't know much about the soil and the ground here.

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[immanionorchid]

It might as well be Saltrock, hm?

[He'll refrain on commenting on the smoking thing for now, be glad he's being polite.]

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[dreamsallotted]

[Seel is ever so thrilled Cal is being polite. Can't you see how thrilled he is?]

It smells mildly better than Saltrock.

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[so_dark_a_road]

I have some experience sinking wells, if you want to try tapping into the ground water.

And also, I spent years digging irrigation ditches to water crop fields from streams and lakes.

It shouldn't be difficult to solve this problem. And I would be happy to work on it. I've gathered a lot of fruit from the orchard, and I've used it for a refuge when seeking quiet and solitude. I feel I owe it something.

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[dreamsallotted]

You and this human I talked too. Ed I think his name was. You both have experience with wells. I don't. But we're going to need all the sources of water we can if we're going to make it through this.

[Seel arched an eyebrow at the idea that Curufin owed the grove something, but they both had different beliefs. He was entitled to his, even if Seel thought it was a crock of shit.]

I'm glad there are so many here who can help. That will make this easier.

[wormintheglass]

Don't you Wraeththu have telepathic abilities? Or is that just Pell?

I ask because I found a combination of self-hypnosis and biofeedback helped a great deal.

[dreamsallotted]

We all have those abilities, if we're trained.

But I'm honestly not familiar with biofeedback. I suppose I could try meditation.