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Video 9 - Sewing Shop (dated an hour after Lance's post)

[while Margaery may be in her usual place in the Sewing Shop, that's not what she's choosing to address. not this time.

sure, she's dressed up as usual, she has her sword laid across her lap and visible in the frame of the video.

she's also not wearing her usual bright smile. instead, her expression is deadly serious]

As I'm sure we're all aware, the demon has been temporarily been . . . put out of commission. Now, this is not the place to debate the wisdom of vigilante justice. Dr. Sweets appears to have that well in hand. No, what this is is the place to discuss what measures may be taken to prevent the demon from taking its rage out on the entirety of Hadriel.

The gods will do nothing. Tranquility told me himself that they will only take action if they themselves are threatened. So we're left to fend for ourselves. We must make our plans ourselves and it would be far better to have those plans coordinated well in advance of its release.

So I am directing this to anyone who has ideas for what to do when the demon is inevitably released back into the populace. Surely there are those with powers or skills which could prevent it from going on a murderous rampage. Now is the time for those people to step forward and offer their ideas.

Thank you for your time and attention.

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[ Small laugh ] Indeed. So we may need to be as sly as she is.

[ He thinks the same of Margaery! ]

I can't fault you on your assessment of the Hadriel gods, since I completely agree with it. Maglor says he pities them, and that is fine; he is compassionate by nature. There was a time when I'd have said the same. But no longer. I have tried to communicate with them, but I've received little of the type of response I had hoped for.

I have to agree, also, with what you say about the danger of friendship with Caedra. I don't believe that she intends any alliance with a human to be permanent. I think it's a matter of convenience, for her. The friends provide her with a respite from the isolation she'd otherwise be subject to in a human community, and that's valuable to her. But the friends are liable to end up as food.

As for organization, I'm thinking we might attempt it for this situation. We won't get cooperation from everybody, or even from most. But as I'm reading the threads of this post, it's obvious that some are willing to do what they can. Kelson suggests that those who are capable of defending against a demon should divide up the islands into areas of responsibility. I think this is a good idea. And I would add to that: we should designate or create a refuge in each of those areas. of that's at all possible. A refuge that is warded, just as the Sewing Shop and the Elfhouse and your house are warded. I'd have to talk to Fingon and Maglor about that; I'm not sure how far our arts can extend. I know we don't have the power to encircle the whole city with protection, not even collectively. We'd have to make do with individual houses or apartments.

I'm guessing Nick would be willing to alert the Guard when Caedra awakes.

Even more so, unless the demon is so overcome by rage that it fails to think through its actions.

And I have had dealings with them myself. They're unwilling to do a single thing for us unless we have something to offer ourselves. And yet they take from us freely without or permission or even without consulting with us.

They are. And yet, it's difficult to feel for them as surely by now they realize the nature of the being that they are dealing with. If they had any sense, they would break off their associations, but people here seem to have little sense and even less of a sense of self-preservation.

The Sewing Shop could serve as one of those places of refuge. I could speak with Delmar and see if he'd be willing to do the same with the Bakery. I'd imagine he would be willing as he, too, has had a run-in with the demon. I'm loath to put my friends in the path of the demon, but it could easily prove necessary. And I do with that the one responsible would step forward, even in privacy, so that a plan could be enacted to keep them safe for surely they will be the demon's first target.

[ Nods nods nods, to all of that. . . Caedra's potential rage, the gods' insistence on being paid for their favors while pillaging the community at will, the lack of the ability to think ahead on the part of those who protect Caedra either deliberately or inadvertently. ]

The Sewing Shop would be ideal, as it's already warded. I'll offer the Firehouse, too, providing the other firefights agree; I'll consult them. Delmar was attacked, too? -- I did not know that! If he's willing to take the risk of his establishment becoming a refuge again, we'll definitely ward the Bakery for him. He and Seel converted the basement of his building into a bunkhouse, as a place of safety during the Null invasion, so he's familiar with the idea already. And as for the mysterious ice-sculptor! -- yes, if they contact you, me, or anyone who joins us in this effort, then we could create a plan of protection. They may not need it, but we don't know their situation, so I agree we should take this possibility into account.

I'd hope that they'd agree. This is a matter of public safety, after all. And, he was. I just found out myself. He was not harmed, but he was frightened. That alone would cause me to dislike the demon for who could be cruel to such a kind and good-hearted man? And I was aware that his Bakery had a place of safety built into it. That could prove very useful. Do you know anyone who works at the Clinic? That could also serve as a refuge should things go poorly. [she sighs] I. . . have reason to know that vigilantes prefer to keep their privacy, but I would hope that they would see the sense in confiding in those who are willing to assist in their defense.

It certainly is a matter of public safety! I'm guessing they will agree, for that reason.

What happened with Delmar? And how did he escape injury? Was she just looking to intimidate him by threatening to injure but not actually doing it, and thus leaving him alive and fearful for future encounters?

I know a number people who work at the clinic. Some of them would probably agree, for the public good. But there are others who would not. I fear we must count that possibility out.

I hope the vigilante has friends willing and able to protect them. But if not, they might need help. I'm wondering if it might be be possible to send a message to this unknown person to let them know they're not without friends outside their own circle. Of course, they may know that already. They received a few sympathetic responses to their post. [ Including Curufin's. ]

Okay, so it looks like we have the start of a plan. I'll talk to my family and to the firefighters. I wonder if we might contact the other people in this log who seemed willing to help? At least, as soon as we know how many refuges we can provide. And they may have ideas about that, too.

Edited 2018-11-02 22:59 (UTC)

Good.

I don't know for certain. He was unwilling to go into details, but I do know it frightened him terribly.

[she has a good idea of who at the Clinic would say no, so she says with a tone of acid in her voice] Then let them risk it on their own, on the outside if they're so certain that the demon would not harm them. If they do not, they are a coward.

[back to normal] As do I. But I don't know how a message would be done, other than trying to remember to filter the message from all those who had condemned them.

A start, but we're already running out of time. Thirty days pass as though they were nothing here. I hope they have ideas The more ideas, the better.

[ He shakes his head over the idea of anybody trying to terrify let alone harm a person such as Delmar. If for no other reason, THIS GUY BAKES YOUR MORNING CINNAMON ROLLS, CAEDRA!!! ]

[ He's still thinking over the issue of the Clinic. He doesn't have a solution at the moment. ]

I'll think about how to get a message to the ice-wielder. It doesn't have to be delivered directly. There are probably some indirect means.

I'm hoping some of the respondents to your post will be willing and powerful enough to be protectors of others, when Caedra wakes up. And I'm counting not only days but islands on my fingers, here! We need a refuge on each island. We'll have the Sewing Shop and presumably the Firehouse on North Island. If Delmar agrees, then the Bakery on South Island. I am thinking of asking my kin if the Elfhouse could be a refuge as well, and that too is on South Island. That leaves West and East Islands.

Although I could offer to ferry people to a refuge. Or you could, since you can handle a boat now, and probably we could find someone to sail it with you. I could ward the boat so that nobody in it could be harmed.

Edited 2018-11-04 21:39 (UTC)

[that alone would be enough to get Margaery to hate Caedra]

I hope so. [wryly] Anonymous posts seem to be all the rage.

[she shakes her head] I don't know what to suggest for the West or East Islands. I wish I did. Ugh, this is all so complicated! If only the demon would listen to sense and stay her hand!

I suppose that could work. I'd be willing to help sail a boat, but yes I'd need a companion.

[ Yes, indeed! Cinnamon rolls are an essential contribution to the well-being of the community! One attacks the baker at one's own peril. ]

I'll figure out something. But as for anonymous posts. . . the ice-wielder was trying to use that method for something positive. I can think of worse uses.

It might be enough, to have refuges on North and South Island, if people know they exist.

Do any of your housemates have boat-handling skills?

As can I. It's a gamble for there's no guarantee that the person responsible will be willing to step forward with the mood of the community being what it is, but it's worth trying.

I hope so. There are an awful lot of noncombatants here and limited space.

Jon and Daenerys went on an expedition to retrieve fragments of the Door. I'd trust either at my side.

True. If the ice-wielder chooses to stay hidden, I could hardly blame them for it. I'll just put out the word, probably not via the network, and hope it gets to them.

That may or may not be the actual problem, as I'm guessing that if Caedra's friends can't talk her into refraining from committing some angry murders when she defrosts, then she'll be gunning first for the people she already knows and hates. And since most of us are armed and dangerous, we may absorb her energies enough to distract her from the noncombatants. At least. . . that is my hope. But you're right, the space for refuges is so far very limited. I guess we must start with what we have, and work from there.

Ah, that is good! Then Jon and Daenerys have already sailed much rougher waters than those of the channels between the islands. I do not know either of them as well as I know you or Sansa, but i'd trust them at your side, too. Or at mine, if it came to that.

No, the network seems a poor place to post looking for information such as this.

And I'd imagine that both you and I count among that number. I would do what I can to keep her from killing me, but the simple fact is that she has powers beyond what I can easily counter. I likely wouldn't last long in such an encounter. You, on the other hand, would be her match.

They are to be trusted completely. Jon Snow is entirely honorable and Daenerys Targaryen believes in protecting the weak.

[ Snicker. ] Sure way to get trolled.

I'm sure we both do count among that number. And Caedra's powers are one of the reasons I want there to be more than one warded public refuge in this city. I don't want her catching you in the open. I'm sure you'd fight like hell, but maybe you should take somebody with you when you are out and about. It does look as though you have a friend or two who would be willing, not just Maglor and Fingon and me.

I am very thankful for Jon and Daenerys. And I was wondering if that family has any special powers? Sansa sort of implied that they might.

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[she blinks] Sure way to get what?

Perhaps I should. I don't want anyone putting themselves in danger for my sake, though. That wouldn't be fair to them, to have to defend themselves and me.

Daenerys is impervious to fire. I don't know if Jon has any special powers, though.

Trolling means replying with excessive hostility to another person's post or comment. It can also mean replying with the specific, conscious intention of insulting, angering, or denigrating the other person, but the definition holds even without the deliberate intent. [ From Curufin's personal dictionary of network terminology! Even a First Age Elf can join Earth's 21st Century. ]

I think anybody who cares about you and has combat skills would be willing to take the risk. You matter to your friends.

Daenerys is impervious to fire? I wish she'd been on the Fire Brigade during the Hadriel Fire! She could have been a rescue specialist. But if I'm right about Jon, he has amazing combat skills. I've never seen him fight, it's just an impression I have from listening to him talk, and watching his body language.

Then after tonight, I suppose I can say that I've been "trolled."

I think it's perhaps for the best if I stay inside a warded building for a few days after the demon's release. Long enough for it to express its rage or perhaps listen to reason.

You are right about Jon. I've seen him fight in a vision and he's exceptionally skilled, even against monsters such as wights.

Join the ranks of the trolled! It's a badge of honor. [ Said with cheerful bitterness, since he himself was trolled after the gods cut down the Orchard in order to enjoy all the hostility that was then directed at the people who built the boats and the piers -- even though there was not a single board of fruit tree wood in either project. ]

I agree. You should stay inside your house or mine, or the Sewing Shop, or the Firehouse. Or all of them, because you might get restless and need a change of scenery! If you do, you could take somebody who has power with you when you go out, as I suggested.

I thought so! In what vision did you see him fight?

Really? And here I thought it was a terribly unpleasant experience. [said bone dryly]

I believe I'll switch between our houses when I need a change of scenery. I know that you and your kin would ably defend me, should I need it.

I saw him North of the Wall, where the Wildlings live. Well, where the Wildings used to live. Their lands have been overrun by the Army of the Dead which now threatens all of Westeros.

[ He smiles a little in response to that dry tone. Margaery's humor in the face of difficulties is one of the many things that draws him to her. She's versatile, she can be sweet, modest, bold, wry, or anything you can think of. ] That's exactly what it says on the aforementioned badge of honor: "Gallant Survivor of a Terribly Unpleasant Experience!"

You would be as welcome in the Elfhouse as you always are, Margaery. And your idea sounds practical, to switch between your dwelling and ours, since you are only two houses down the spiral from us. Maglor and Fingon and I will certainly defend you. Woe be unto anyone, but especially Caedra, who tries to harm you.

You saw Jon fighting zombies? I guess that's what that Army of the Dead would be called in this modern era.

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[before, all of her reactions were calculated to the smallest detail, but here she doesn't have to worry about such things as much] Oh, does it? I suppose I'll have to accept it.

I know and I am grateful for your friendship and protection. But I hope that she does not try to harm me at all. I hope that the idea doesn't even occur to her. She's killed me once and had her sport, I can't imagine what would be the use in killing me again.

I. . . suppose so? Though this Army could be killed by only three things: dragonglass, Valyrian steel, and fire.

Absolutely!

I hope it doesn't occur to her to harm you, either. But if it does, maybe she'll be warned by her prior experiences with the Elves, and forgo the idea. Should she succeed, the price of killing you again would be worse than what she experienced the first time, I think. Maglor is pretty formidable when he's angry, and not too scrupulous about how much suffering he causes an enemy. And I'm the same.

Nice there were a few things that could kill those deathly soldiers! Did Jon somehow employ one of these substances to that purpose?

I am grateful to have such stalwart protectors--or avengers, should it come to that. I hope that it doesn't. I hope that some peaceful method of causing it to surrender works. But it's best to be prepared if it doesn't.

Precious few. Valyrian steel blades are rare and dragonglass apparently only exists in the caves beneath Dragonstone. Jon was negotiation for its use when he came here.

I hope it does not come down to vengeance, too. I hope and expect that it will not. That would be a last resort. If there is some peaceful solution, I am all for it. But yes, we should be prepared.

And if Jon was prepared to fight zombies in his world, he may be willing to fight a demon in this one, if he must. He is a brave man, and I feel certain that if it happened that you were attacked while he was with you, he'd do all that any human being could do, to protect you.

Yes, I'm expecting that the demon will target whomever it was who froze it first and foremost. With any luck, they can manage to defend themselves again. If not . . . I hope that they are willing to admit to what they've done so that there are people willing to defend them.

I'm sure he would, too. Unfortunately, it comes down to the fact that we are both human and the demon has advantages we simply can't match.

Caedra will certainly target the ice-wielder, assuming she got a good enough look at them to know who it is. I hope that person is powerful enough to fend her off. If not, maybe they will be sensible and ask for help. I'll try to get the word out, so that the possibility of help exists.

Yes, you and Jon are both human, and that's the point of trying to get together a roster of people who do have the ability to fight a demon. I don't want you or Jon or anybody else to die for lack of skillful allies who can arrive at the right moment.

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