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lingeringfear ([personal profile] lingeringfear) wrote in [community profile] hadriel2019-02-03 05:50 pm

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Right. Okay. We need to get in front of this and make a plan. I'm the one who has to put my neck out there so I'm the one who has to talk about options.

If they've got Tranquility, they're probably using him in their machines as a power source until we get there. Now, if we can forget that this is all Sorrow's fault for a minute here, we've got to come up with a plan and he has some pretty good ones, so- here goes I guess.

First option is do nothing. We sit on our thumbs and probably let Tranquility die, but it means that we won't be handing over their ally and it means that we won't be playing into whatever trap they're setting for us. As much as I don't want to advocate for this one... well, if they're setting a trap and they want me there, I don't like my chances of walking away from it. This is probably the safest option, but- damn.

Second option is to go ahead with the transfer. I go with some of you, we give them Delight, we hope that they don't trap or kill us during the whole ordeal and get three gods for the price of one. I don't like this at all, but this is probably the best way to get Tranquility back safely- if we don't do this one then I can't guarantee that he'll make it out of there.

And the third was presented by Rage herself. If we assume that they're going to trap us, we go there and trap them instead. Rage can disguise herself to look like Delight and we go through with the transfer. They'll be expecting Delight to work with them- I hope- and so we'll launch a surprise attack during the exchange with Rage's help. We take them out, save Tranquility, keep Delight. If they're expecting this then we lose, big time- but if they're not, then we could win out more here than otherwise.

I don't... I don't really like any of these options. There's risking myself and then there's being stupid- but what other option do we have? I'll hear your concerns or alternate ideas if you have them, as well as any volunteers to go with me.

It doesn't need to be said that if we die at the meeting point... well, Hope won't be able to gather our essences or your bodies for a resurrection when it's so deep into the Null territory. For all intents and purposes, a death there would be permanent. Keep that in mind while you make your choice.


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What should we do?

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Do nothing, let them keep Tranquility
7 (10.6%)

Make the exchange, lose Delight, risk that they're true to their word
33 (50.0%)

Strike with Rage, risk losing Rage, Fear, and Tranquility in the battle
26 (39.4%)



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[personal profile] synthedick 2019-02-04 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I think getting Tranquility back is worth the risk. They haven't shown themselves to be liars yet, but I'm not about to assume that's entirely off the table.

What do you think the odds are that a group of them attacks the city while you and whoever else is gone on this exchange?

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[personal profile] circumitus 2019-02-04 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
first of all does delight know about any of this yet?

if not, then what are the chances sorrow can convince her to split so she'll be weak/useless to the null?


[She already brought this up with Julie, but why not bring the question to someone who might actually have an answer?]

either way we shouldnt lose tranquility, so option 'a' is off the table.

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[personal profile] firstreturned 2019-02-04 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
We don't give them Delight.

[The response is snarled into the mic, the ferocity of it crackling the speaker with static.]

I don't care what it takes. I'm ready to fight a thousand of them if I have to, I don't care. Don't-

[Her voice gets lower, through gritted teeth.]

-don't do this.
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[personal profile] aroundthecoroner 2019-02-04 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
They have a weapon that can kill you.
Do you think it'll even be possible for you two to just go in and get Tranquility back?
I'm, uh, that's not rhetorical.
I'm actually asking.

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[personal profile] uptightness 2019-02-04 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
How good is this disguise?
Would they have some means to see through it?
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[personal profile] firstreturned 2019-02-04 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Our forms are just what we choose to look like- I can look like anything.

They're likely able to track us by energy signature. That will be more complicated to fool, but Fear can shield my true nature and they wouldn't be able to tell unless I was scanned. At that point I'd be in a position to attack anyway.

What I'm saying is, it'll get us through the front door.

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[personal profile] shithefuckup 2019-02-04 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
I say we go for the last option. They don't get to tell us what to fucking do, so of course we have to fuck them up!

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[personal profile] abyssalarcana 2019-02-04 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
You're underestimating your pets if you think they'll want those first two choices. I've seen how stubborn they get.

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[personal profile] hot_mes 2019-02-04 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
the second option is prudence. the third is risk. I'm a practical man so I would vote that way, but I won't discourage taking risks. after all, the greater the risk, the greater the reward.

but choose your battle companions wisely. Hope's mistake is that he believes we're all fragile and weak. there are many here who can probably pull your asses out of a fire much more easily than you think, so if you're going in guns blazing, at least pick the strongest here.

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[personal profile] marmoron 2019-02-04 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
There are a few people here who are capable of teleporting. Is there a reason a mission to infiltrate Null territory and retrieve Tranquility wouldn't work?

What are the Null's offensive capabilities should a direct confrontation be necessary anyway?

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[personal profile] standformyself 2019-02-04 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
[And because texting takes the Dog some time...]

Do you know how Tranquility was captured in the first place? More with respect to whether they would simply do it again.

[A little huffed woof.]

I come late to this story, and I've had no dealings with these Null. How true have they been to their word in the past?

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[personal profile] traitory 2019-02-04 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
Why not just use some of those nautilus beasts as a diversion and then strike? At least then they would do most of the work for us. You can use those fear powers of yours to cause them to panic and attack the Null, can't you?

Leading the creatures to the area could be easily done, given their...willingness to fight.


[ His name is fear right, so this shouldn't be hard for him. As for finding enough of those creatures to gather up, well, it's not going to be him. ]
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[personal profile] lingeringhope 2019-02-04 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Absolutely not. They are the last remnants of our host species. We are not going to drive them to the slaughter, even if it were possible.

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[personal profile] coyoteking 2019-02-04 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Listen, my answer's gonna be pragmatic, just telling you up front. But you're a species on the edge of extinction, you can't afford not to be pragmatic. I'm sure you get that already. It fucking sucks, but that's how it is.

[Just, uh, you know, preparing Fear for the rundown.]

You can't risk losing one of your own, one of your own that isn't a traitor, so option one is out. You can't risk losing three of you at once, so option three's out too, as much as I find it kind of appealing. Option two, though, that's the winner.

[He doesn't pause long enough for an argument just yet.]

I've never met 'em, but these Null assholes don't seem very keen on lying. As far as I can tell, they never have. That said, yeah, this is probably a trap. Which is why you send people they've never met, and people who stand a chance of kicking their asses. As for Delight, well, she's their ally, but she's also yours. She's family, right? And she actually gives a shit about what happens to us. She's a shitty ally for the Null. You're trading them a faulty weapon.

[There you go he has made his case.]

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[personal profile] spazzed 2019-02-04 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
you can't just do nothing even if it seems like the safest option
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making an exchange based on the assumption that they're going to keep their word sounds like a really high risk even if it is your BEST option

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[personal profile] toiletseat_girl 2019-02-04 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Jesus fucking Christ. This is like "which shitty option is the least shitty," isn't it? Fuck it. We do the goddamn trade. But you better take the heaviest of heavy hitters with you when you go, 'cause I don't trust the Null any further than I can throw one of those mammoths.

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[personal profile] theladyofhighever 2019-02-04 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Should we make the exchange, I would volunteer to go with you.
I realize that I'm still new here and it's true that I've never faced the Null, but I have spent the past year fighting for my life on a daily basis.
It's made me a very efficient killer.
I'm also used to fighting multiple foes at once and ones inclined to as little mercy as I've heard the Null allow.
Whatever comes, I would face it without fear.

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[personal profile] roseofthetyrells 2019-02-04 05:07 am (UTC)(link)
[having observed the reactions of others]

I must concur with the gentleman advocating for the second option.
Losing an ally such as Tranquility is foolhardy.
The third option is even more so, if it were possible.
Delight has made her choices and chose the Null.
Let her live with the results of those choices.
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[personal profile] stonebird 2019-02-04 12:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I must concur with Lady Margaery. We have no way of knowing if they are lying or not, but we cannot leave Tranquility in their hands. He deserves the possibility of a rescue and Delight deserves to pay for her ill decision.
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[He might be out of element some of the time in Hadriel, but battle strategies and reading people are what Ivar is very good at. He's got his own counsel on this matter.]

Never trust the enemy to keep their word. I wouldn't if I was in their position. Better to be proactive and strike first when their guard is down under false pretenses.
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[personal profile] firstreturned 2019-02-04 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with this one.

[She nods.]

Better to kill our way out then to trust the Null who annihilated our species.

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[personal profile] redwinekindofgirl 2019-02-04 08:19 am (UTC)(link)
[Hey, Fear, remember this one? The one who lost her shit that time when everyone was after protecting the rogue Null?]

First of all, this entirely sucks every kind of ass.

Also, I really want to not like you guys??? but every time something like this happens I'm on your side and I'm not sure how to feel about that.

Anyway. Tranquility told me once that the Null can lie. They say they don't. But 'don't' and 'can't' are different things. What if they're lying now?

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[personal profile] writtendestiny 2019-02-04 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
If Tranquility died, could Hope bring him back?

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[personal profile] claritatis 2019-02-04 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
I would often choose to err on the side of subterfuge in situations like this, but the risk if we're caught is great. I would anticipate that they are expecting some kind of trick given their professed low opinion of your kind and anyone who works with you.

How thorough is Rage's disguise? Can she evoke the same emotions as Delight, or is the change cosmetic in nature?

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[personal profile] hasitsthorns 2019-02-04 10:14 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not about these robots, but- Delight made her choice and was willing to act on it. I doubt that's changed much, all things considered.

I'd rather have Tranquility than a traitor, I guess, unless Delight has a drastic change of heart and fast.
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[personal profile] firstreturned 2019-02-04 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Do none of you understand that she was afraid?

[She retorts, simmering.]

That she tried to save you? You, the ungrateful cretins who would throw her back to the dogs. She would have entered a life of servitude to keep the Null from killing you.

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[personal profile] dedikated 2019-02-04 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
You able to get the others somewhere safe if we fight the Null?

( She's reasonably sure they can outfight the Null without the gods' help, at least. )
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[Mogget is new around here, though not so new that he doesn't understand what's going on. The thing is... he just doesn't care. His voice is a soft, curious mewl.]

Why should we have to help you at all? Surely you can handle this yourselves.

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[personal profile] battlebound 2019-02-04 12:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't like you.

( Yes, thank you, Steak.

But it's true. He doesn't like the gods. So far, Steak's opinion is that the city and this universe would be better off with fewer of them. Or none. But this situation is more complicated than simply abstaining from getting involved because he dislikes the gods. His knowledge of the Null might be second hand, gathered from the newbie guide and this sudden offer, but Steak knows they're as much of a threat to the people here as he believes the gods are.

Just, perhaps, in a different way.
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What do you lose if Tranquility dies?

( What, exactly, are they risking by giving him up? Or giving up Delight, for that matter? )

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[personal profile] theweakhavepurpose 2019-02-04 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
what would they do to you if they had you?

if you want any tips on being a prisoner and tortured for months on end and not dying, ive got them.

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[personal profile] unfollowing 2019-02-04 04:40 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Em was here when the gods were being revived. She witnessed the city split. She's gotten and given enough in this gods/hosts relationship that they've come to occupy a positive space in her heart. She's faced down deadly enemies before, and very nearly died a few times on the mountain, and for real here. Maybe she's scared of dying and never making up with her friends back home. Maybe she's scared the gods will be killed, or imprisoned. Maybe this is a suicide mission.

But if t were her friends on the line, any of them, she'd fight. She'd hate herself forever if she jusr sat back and gave in. They've gotta try.

So even though she is in fact scared (ur welcome, Feae) she speaks up. ]


after all the shit you guys went through, and we went through WITH you, we can't just give in or give up

take some of us with you. people who can fight or use magic. strong, fast, smart people. go with the rage plan. kick some null ass. the point isn't to destroy them all or win the war, just to get yourselves all together again, right?

right now, that's the most important thing. you can worry about long-term survival later


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They'll be okay. They have to be. ]

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